Episode 20

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Published on:

25th Sep 2025

Game Time: From Wine to Psychedelics: Are Moms Trading One Buzz for Another?

We're diving deep into the fascinating world of microdosing in this episode, where we explore how more moms are turning to this trend for anxiety relief and overall wellness. As we unravel the complexities, we tackle whether mushroom-infused products are the new “mommy wine culture” or simply a passing fad. With a witty game of "Shroom or Zoom," we dissect the buzz surrounding microdosing and its implications for everything from parenting to personal retreats. Our conversation gets super real as we consider the potential for psilocybin to enhance empathy and creativity, especially in navigating the wild ride of motherhood. So grab your favorite comfy chair and join us as we share insights, challenge norms, and maybe even convince you that a little fungi could be just what the doctor ordered!

The episode presents a captivating discussion on the transformative power of microdosing within the context of modern motherhood, framed through a witty and engaging format. The speakers initiate a rapid-fire game of 'Shroom or Zoom', which cleverly juxtaposes various wellness trends against the backdrop of traditional coping mechanisms, such as the infamous mommy wine culture. This playful approach allows for a deep exploration of the cultural implications of microdosing, particularly among mothers who are increasingly seeking alternatives to alcohol for managing stress and anxiety. They argue that microdosing represents a significant shift towards conscious living, moving away from mere escapism towards a more integrated and embodied experience of motherhood.

Throughout the episode, the banter remains light-hearted, yet the underlying themes are profoundly impactful. The speakers discuss how microdosing may enhance empathy and connection with one's children, suggesting that it can foster a more compassionate parenting style. They delve into the science behind these claims, balancing humor with skepticism, as they navigate the murky waters of wellness trends. Moreover, the conversation hints at the growing trend of psychedelic retreats that are beginning to cater to mothers, suggesting a shift towards more holistic forms of self-care that prioritize emotional well-being over conventional nightlife escapades.

The episode closes with a thoughtful reflection on the future of psilocybin in mainstream wellness culture, pondering the implications of big brands flirting with mushroom-infused products. The speakers leave listeners with a sense of anticipation about the potential for these practices to reshape not only individual lives but also the broader cultural narrative surrounding motherhood and mental health.

Takeaways:

  • The trend of microdosing among moms is not just a fad; it's an emerging lifestyle shift.
  • Mushroom chocolate bars are being compared to the traditional mommy wine culture, but it's a different vibe entirely.
  • Microdosing is gaining traction for perimenopause relief, but we should question the science behind it.
  • There’s an intriguing rise in mommy microdose movements, transforming playdates into conscious gatherings.
  • Empathy and patience may increase with microdosing, leading to better parenting experiences.
  • The mainstreaming of mushrooms in wellness products is on the horizon, pending legal developments.
Transcript
Tracey Tee:

Foreign.

Roxy:

I'd love to play a little game with you if you're up for it.

Tracey Tee:

Okay.

Roxy:

All right, so this game is called Shroom or Zoom. So basically it's going to be a rap rapid fire game and we're going to do like a what's real versus what's kind of out there.

So there really no right or wrong answers. It's just more how you feel. So, so here we go. More moms are micro doing instead of medicating for exi, medicating for anxiety trend or overblown.

Tracey Tee:

I think it's real. It's, it's. I, I, I don't like to use the word trend, but I think it's happening. Yeah.

Roxy:

Mushroom chocolate bars are the new mommy wine culture. Shroom or Zoom?

Tracey Tee:

Zoom. I hate that.

Roxy:

Yeah, you hate it. Why? Why do you hate that?

Tracey Tee:

Because I think it's, it's not a replacement from mommy wine culture. I think we're, we're not, we're not numbing out anymore. We're dropping in.

And so we're abandoning mommy wine culture for something that's much more embodied, so.

Roxy:

Much more conscientious and. Yeah, absolutely.

Tracey Tee:

Yeah.

Roxy:

Microdosing for perimenopause symptom relief is exploding. Is it real science or just buzzy headlines?

Tracey Tee:

A little bit of both.

Roxy:

Okay. Okay, fair enough.

Tracey Tee:

Tb. Tbd.

Roxy:

TBD coming down the pipeline. We'll see, right?

Tracey Tee:

Yeah.

Roxy:

Okay. There's a growing mic. Mommy microdose movement or play dates are doubling as silos, silo syllabin circles. Do you see this happening?

Tracey Tee:

Do I see it happening, like in.

Roxy:

My life or in the community around?

Tracey Tee:

Yeah, yeah, I think, I think we're seeing a lot more moms microdosing. For sure.

Roxy:

People are saying that microdosing can actually help with your sex life. Is this true or false?

Tracey Tee:

I would say it's true.

Roxy:

Really? Okay, well, just because you, you have less sort of like, kind of guard up and you're more relaxed and.

Tracey Tee:

Is it. Yeah, you're, you're in your body. I would just say, like, take a microdose and go have sex and come and report back. Oh, you'll be disappointed.

Roxy:

Better than alcohol then, in that way.

Tracey Tee:

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Roxy:

Half the time I think if you're drunk, you don't even remember it anyway, so it's like.

Tracey Tee:

Yeah, no, it's not. Well, it's, it's. Again, physiologically, it's not even the same thing. So. Yeah.

Roxy:

Some therapists are designing whole pro protocols around psilocybin for creativity parenting therapy. Is this promising or problematic?

Tracey Tee:

Very promising.

Roxy:

Do you see it too? Do you hear about these things? Yeah, we've been hearing about the psychedelic retreats in Mexico, Costa Rica, all these kind of places.

And they're starting to market more to moms. So do you think that this is where things are headed?

Tracey Tee:

Yeah. Yeah.

Roxy:

So you see more moms kind of embracing these sort of opportunities and things like that?

Tracey Tee:

Yeah, I think they're hungry for. I think the kind of days of like, going to Vegas are being replaced with going to a retreat.

Roxy:

Okay.

Tracey Tee:

I do.

Roxy:

Oh, my God. The Vegas days.

Tracey Tee:

Or like a mom's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But for like a mom's escape or like a girl's weekend or whatever. Yeah, I think I'm absolutely seeing that more.

Roxy:

Okay. Some schools of thought suggest microdosing can make you more empathetic towards your kids. Is this shroom or zoom?

Tracey Tee:

Very shroom.

Roxy:

Right. It just. Does it give you more patience? Do you feel like.

Tracey Tee:

Yeah, I think, you know, this is heart medicine. So compassion and gratitude are two big things that are just natural outcomes of working with psilocybin.

And when you lead from that space and you have empathy or compassion towards your child, you're just naturally more present, you actually listen more, and it just becomes easier. Yeah.

Roxy:

Big wellness brands are flirting with psilocybin infused adaptogenic mushroom products. Is this the start of mainstreaming mushrooms? Shroom or Zoom?

Tracey Tee:

Well, legally, they can't. So if you're a big brand that's telling you that they have a microdose product, it doesn't have psilocybin because it's not legal to sell.

So I would say that that's a zoom, but I know a lot of people are anxious to get into the market when it becomes legalized, for sure.

Roxy:

Oh, my gosh, Tracy, you're amazing. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for coming on the iconic midlife and sharing your community and all the great work you're doing.

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