Episode 27

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11th Nov 2025

From Chaos to Clarity: How to Transform Your Life in 10 Minutes a Day with Andrea Leigh Rogers

What if you could shift your mindset, boost your energy, and completely reframe your day in just ten minutes? Wellness expert and author Andrea Leigh Rogers joins The Iconic Midlife to share her signature micro-habit method that’s helping women over 40 ditch the burnout cycle and reclaim control of their lives—without overhauling everything.

We dive into:

  • How small, consistent shifts unlock massive transformation
  • The “identity before action” philosophy that sticks
  • Why midlife is the best time to rewrite your story
  • Tools to help you get grounded, energized, and clear—fast

Andrea doesn’t believe in hustle culture. She believes in harmony—and she’s showing us how to create it on our own terms.

💫 Tap play for a radically achievable reset. You deserve a life that feels aligned.

Takeaways:

  • In today's fast-paced world, we often confuse busyness with productivity, forgetting that true purpose lies in meaningful actions rather than frantic schedules.
  • As we age, nurturing genuine friendships becomes essential; it's not about quantity but the quality of connections that truly fuels us.
  • The philosophy of 'small moves' emphasizes that significant life changes can stem from consistent, manageable actions rather than overwhelming overhauls.
  • Consistency, rather than intensity, is the key to lasting change; even just ten minutes of daily movement can yield profound results over time.
  • Breath work and movement are crucial tools for maintaining mental and emotional health, serving as foundational practices for a balanced life.
  • Navigating personal challenges while building a career can be tough, but embracing every experience as part of your journey empowers growth and resilience.
Transcript
Andrea Leigh Rogers:

We have confused busyness for purpose or productivity. Like, I'm crazy, oh, my God, I have no time. And it's we do. We say it with pride. And yet inside we are, like, spinning.

Roxy Manning:

As I'm getting older, sometimes it can be harder to make good girlfriends.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I've just become more acutely aware of those people that take more than they give. I am all about quality over quantity. Right.

Roxy Manning:

Do you use your girlfriends when you're out there, like dating? Yes.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

To the point where I'm like, andrea, think for yourself.

Roxy Manning:

Actually, you're turning that on its head. You're saying small moves actually make the difference.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

You can actually get results if you just work out 10 minutes a day. Trust me, just 10 minutes. But you're gonna do it every day with me. And it's non negotiable.

Roxy Manning:

Consistency is much more powerful than intensity.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Say it again, Say it again. I want a billboard that just says consistency, period. You're gonna feel it though. Don't think like this. Ten minutes is nothing.

I mean, you're gonna be like, holy, how do. What the heck was that like? And I always will say this. You move your body, you move your life.

If you don't move your body, things are not gonna move in your life.

Roxy Manning:

Today's guest is the definition of quiet power, relentless consistency, and feminine discipline. Andrea Rogers built a global movement, became a household name in fitness, and did it while raising two daughters and rebuilding her life.

As a single mom, she learned that real transformation doesn't happen in massive leaps. It happens in five minutes a day, in the moments no one applauds and in the rituals you repeat when no one's watching.

Her new book, Small Moves, Big Life is not a wellness trend. It's a blueprint for women who are done fighting themselves and ready to design their energy, their confidence, and their future.

We're talking nervous system, regulation, identity, motherhood, ambition, rebuilding, and the quiet discipline that creates an extraordinary life. Andrea Rogers, welcome to the iconic midlife. I'm so excited to have you.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I am so excited to connect with you. It's already going to be fun, I guess.

Roxy Manning:

Already? Already. And you're a, you're a Dallas girl too? And that is my hometown.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yes.

Roxy Manning:

Okay.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

So I love Dallas. I've been here for about three years now. So where are you now?

Roxy Manning:

So I'm in Los Angeles now.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Ah, Very different. Very different, yes.

Roxy Manning:

What were some of your favorite Dallas places?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I mean, even though I've been here for three years, I feel like it's only been a year because I feel like the first two years were a blur of traveling and all the things, but, God, there's so much to love. We love the arboretum. We love, you know, arboretum at this time of the year is like the best thing ever. Yes. For the holidays.

And of course, all the hot spots. You know, Highland Park Village. I'm going to have Sedells and all the things. So, yeah, we. We are enjoying it.

Roxy Manning:

And favorite Mexican food, restaura restaurant.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Well, there's the new one that just opened, the Mexican. That is amazing. And then we have, like a little dive right by our down the street.

I love, like, I'm a fan, big fan of like, just mom and pop kind of restaurants and so, yeah, there's a couple places right by us. How about you? Any ones that I need to check out.

Roxy Manning:

I mean, I feel like I always. It's like staple when I come back home. I have to go to Mikasina.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Well, I mean, of course, of course.

Roxy Manning:

I've got to have all my things. The chips and salsa and like the quesadillas and nachos and of course, a little mom jumbo taxi here and there.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I mean, I mean, it's funny, when I moved here, so many people are like. And we have one that lives, it's like, just on either side of us. So, yes, we. That is a frequent visit for us as well.

Roxy Manning:

Yes, yes. It always is a good time. That's for sure.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

It is.

Roxy Manning:

That's for sure. Well, I'm so thrilled that we have this opportunity to talk because you have been making not only small moves, but big moves, too.

You've got so much going on with the release of your new book, which I definitely want to dive into. But I kind of wanted to start at the beginning with you a little bit and kind of.

Kind of get the origin story of the young you and how you kind of made your way into creating one of the biggest workout trends, Extend, which, I mean, so many people do. It's such a great workout. But, like, where did that all start? What was like the little girl to teenage you?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Like, yes. The little girl to teenage me was a mover and a shaker, always from a young age.

So I started dancing when I was three years old, and I started competing in dance when I was 4 years old. And I just fell in love with movement from a very young age. And it was something that I was naturally good at, but I worked very hard at as well.

And I just. I just love movement. Like, I love music. I love dance. I loved it.

And so growing up, I knew that movement was a pillar in my life, and it would always be a pillar in my life.

I didn't realize until after graduating from college and being completely bewildered in the adult world that movement would then bring me back to, to my. To my place of being, my purpose, my ikigai. Like, I didn't realize how important it was for me to move my body until I tried to get a real job.

I sat behind that desk for six weeks, girl. I lasted six weeks. And I was like, I don't think I'm meant to sit behind a desk or at least not for somebody else. So, yes, yes.

So I was always just very, very big into listening to my body and letting movement fuel me. And that's where all the passion and then the business kind of came from, all of that.

Roxy Manning:

So that's an interesting idea because, you know, you had your passion, you dance, danced. He loved movement. How do you turn that, like, that passion into a full fledged business like you did, right?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I, you know, the intention was simply to teach. I wanted to teach Pilates. And so I became certified. I took time, right? I did like a year long certification. I really fell in love with Pilates.

I fell in love with the science behind it. I fell in love with the power of it. I fell in love with the inclusivity of it and what it could do for the human body.

And so after teaching for a few years with a tremendous amount of respect for Pilates, I was aching to choreograph. I was like, but I'd love to do this instead of just staying within my box, you know?

So I started to sprinkle in some dance moves with my private Pilates clients, you know, and they loved it. And they would come back and say, do that dance stuff you did with me. And so I started to sprinkle in some more dance moves. And at that time, bar.

Bar workouts were starting to just get going, right? It was New York, Louisiana, Chicago. Nothing really was happening in South Florida where I was living at the time.

And so I approached the studio owner and I said, I've got an idea. I want to create my own bar workout. And I want it to be fused with the true fundamentals of Pilates.

Like, I want the core principles Pilates to be in every aspect and every breath of this program. And so that's what I did. I got to work. I created a curriculum, I started teaching the classes, like took off within a couple weeks. We had wait list.

And then I was like, oh, wait, we're onto something. So then I Took a year to develop the full curriculum.

Created a certification program just internally for the studio because I was teaching all the classes and I couldn't keep up with it.

And so then from there that turned into licensing, and then that turned into franchising, and then that turned into digital content and everything just kind of naturally, you know, flowed from there.

Roxy Manning:

It's amazing that you saw an opportunity and you saw that there was a need for something else and you went for it, you know, and it's like oftentimes too, I feel like it's a lot of like thinking outside the box, right? I mean, you're like, I need to create something totally new, you know.

So I'm wondering, like, especially in that first year, those first few years, what did that look like? Were there times that you were just like, oh my gosh, like it, like, I'm quitting, like, this is it? Or were you like, no, I have to keep going.

Like, how did that, that first, like entrepreneurial sort of time look like for you?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Well, the first few years it was so. It was just hunger and passion and drive and the screw ups didn't matter because we were just going, right. It was like full steam ahead.

And it was also very much me in the beginning. I was doing it all right.

I was going to, I'm going to age myself, but I was going to like Office Depot and creating my own manuals and I had seen CDs that every licensed studio owner got with new music that I had to download and. And I would like stamp the sticker on the cd, you know, like with my logo and I would ship it off. Like, I mean, I did it all.

And then after that, I started to just slowly bring on like one person here and one person here and one person here. And so that those beginning years were amazing. They were so magical. It was just like, oh my God, people love this program.

We're going to grow, grow, grow. We grew way too fast, too quick. And there were a lot of lessons learned along the way.

It wasn't until we were learning those deeper lessons, growing into the franchise model that the aches and pains and discovery of, oh shit, this is really hard. This is like, you know, in the beginning it's all exciting. And then that excitement and the full throttle ahead catches up with you.

And you have to figure it out, right?

You have to figure out, okay, all those lessons or mistakes that you made in the beginning, you have to figure out how to, you know, push through them and what is on the other side and when to pivot and when to change direction and when to shift strategy. And all those things were discovered.

And some of them, you know, all lessons, some failures, some wins, but all lessons, you know, all lessons along the way.

Roxy Manning:

Yeah, you learn a lot, I would imagine.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Tremendous amount, right?

Roxy Manning:

Tremendous amount. Because you're just. You're creating something new.

So those times that were, like, the lower times, let's say, you had a failure, something you learned from, where do you get the fortitude to just, like, keep pushing through? Because I think a lot of times we can feel a little stuck when something happens.

You know, I feel like even sometimes, like, the older I get, whereas we're supposed to, like, like, not care as much, sometimes you even care more. You know, it's.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yeah, it's like. Yeah, because you're like, you should know better. You shouldn't be making these mistakes at this age. Right. Yeah. Oh, but.

But if we're not making mistakes, then I don't think we're putting ourselves out there enough. Like, if we're not. We're not taking the risk, then, you know, I feel like there's always lessons to learn.

And sometimes, yes, in hindsight, you're like, oh, that was really silly. I shouldn't have made that mistake, and I should know better at this point. But in.

In reality, like, good for us for trying and getting out there and actually having the courage to commit to making these mistakes and learning along the way. Right. I think it's courageous when you. When you make mistakes. Sometimes it's also silly and you need to learn from them. So, yeah, I just.

I always, always go back to intention.

So if my intention is pure, which it is, and I'm trying to do the right thing and I make a mistake or I don't do the right thing, I come back to that.

I always say, like, can I put my head on my pillow at night knowing that I made those moves or made those decisions from a good place, you know, for all parties involved. And that's when I can allow myself to let go of some of that guilt that surrounds those decisions and then focus forward.

You know, it's like, I'm meant for great things. I'm meant to live a big life. I'm meant to do more. This might be a part of my life.

This might be a story or a chapter in the book, but it's not the entire story.

Roxy Manning:

And then when you did get to that, you know, the place where you first, you know, felt very successful, you felt like it hit. Describe that. Like, what was that like? Was that Just, you know, was that a lasting feeling that you had?

Was it, Oh, I got to get back to the grind and, like, work more and, like, scale it up even more. Like, how did that first win look to you?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I'm like, I'm not there yet. I have not. I'm not. I have not felt that, like, whoa, I've, like, hit that peak of success where I want to be. I haven't. I'm still reaching for it.

I'm still. Yeah, I'm still in the trenches. I've had wins, some significant wins along the way.

But, no, I feel like I'm still really, like, have a lot to accomplish, and I have. And I wonder that myself, to be really frank with you. I wonder, will I ever get to that point where I'm like, yeah, all right, girl, you did it.

Like, I have wins, you know, like, this book, I just. We got bestseller. Like, it was a big win. It was a big, exciting. That was a big win. And I had a moment. I had some tears, and I would. Joy.

Pure joy and gratitude and appreciation. And. But, like, the next day, I was, like, writing a message to my book agent. I'm like, okay, here's some ideas for book two.

My friend's like, it's been one day. Like, one day. And I'm like, I know. I don't know what it is. I just have something in me that I feel like I just have more to do. And not to prove.

Not to prove anything, but just, like, there's something in me that I'm like, I have more to accomplish, and I. I want to get more out there, and I have more to discuss and share and hopefully connect with women on. So, yeah, I allow myself to say, add a girl. Good work. You did great. And then I'm just focused forward.

Roxy Manning:

You know, I saw a post that you posted.

I think it might have been your pub date when the book came out, and you had posted a picture with your two little ones, and it was like, such a family moment that you guys were sharing, you know, like, the joy and the happiness.

And I can imagine, though, you know, even within that picture, you might look at it and think, wow, there was also, like, struggle to get here, right? And there was also, like, drama.

And I know whilst you were, like, building this amazing business, you were also dealing with some personal things that were going on in your life because, you know, you were married, you had the children, but then you got divorced. So, like, how are the. Tell me about that parallel, like, building this business, but then also going through the stuff in your personal life.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yes. I mean, this book would not have. Would not exist. It wouldn't have. There would be no story without the story.

Roxy Manning:

Right.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

And, yeah, I mean, looking back, those were some of the most challenging times in my life. And I was in positions that I never thought I would be in, and I had to navigate through them.

And that is where all of these everyday foundational stabilizers or practices, if you will, came into my life. This is what I did to not only survive, but to kind of lift myself out of that fog and to. To clear the path and to see what was ahead.

And that, you know, took a lot of. I allowed myself to have my moments. Right. I'm not someone that's like, I ignore the feelings. I don't feel it. No, I allow it.

I just don't let it sink into my soul for too long, and I just, you know, keep moving. So I just kept focusing on, like, no, you're meant for good, great things. You're meant for big life.

You have a big life ahead of you, and this is just part of your story. Someday this story is going to be fuel for something else. And so that's just what I kept leaning into. I didn't think about, like.

I mean, I had moments of, like, why the hell is this happening to me? I did all the right things. I don't belong here. Like, this isn't supposed to be my story. You know, this isn't the happy ending I was supposed to have.

But you just keep pushing through. And I was. I figured, okay, this is just a chapter, and I'm gonna keep writing this story. And hopefully. And I knew.

Not hopefully, I knew it was going to continue to get better. And it will.

Roxy Manning:

Yeah, it will. Absolutely. You know, I think it's interesting to.

A lot of women, especially in midlife, are kind of looking at their marriages and looking at, you know, is this something I want to stay in? Like, did I, you know, did we put too much emphasis on raising the kids or having the careers and not, like, fueling, you know, the two of us?

So, like, what advice would you give a woman, maybe in midlife, who is looking around and saying, do I want to stay in this marriage? Is this something I want for the rest of my life?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yeah, I think it's very personal. It's funny. I was just looking, and Oprah was just talking about gray divorce. Have you heard about this?

Roxy Manning:

Yes, I have. It's a phenomenon.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yeah, it is a phenomenon. I was younger when I got divorced. I was 36. 36. 37. So I wasn't quite midlife, but almost there. But I got married when I was so young.

I mean, I was with him for almost 14 years. So, like, I. You know, it wasn't like a young relationship. It was a mature relationship. And, you know, I think you.

For me, personally, I think it's very different. And I cannot give anybody direct advice on what works. What worked for me works for them.

Just like my diet, nutrition, and workout program can be good for me, but it might not be right for you. Like, everybody has to really listen to their own story and understand what it means for them.

But I was just very honest with myself when it got to the point where I was like, this is black and white now. There is no gray for me. There is no. Like, it's just there.

Roxy Manning:

It.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I knew without a doubt. And when I kept thinking about my children were young, they were four and six.

And I kept thinking, I need to be able to look at them in their eyes someday when they're older and grown and feel really no hesitation with saying, this is why, you know, this happened. And I. I have no doubt and no guilt and no remorse about it. And that's where I was at when that decision was made.

And so I still, to this day, it was great, and everybody's great, and he's happily married with a new baby, and we all get along and life is good. And it was. Not for a while, but we've gotten there. You know, it took a lot of time, but we did get to the other side, and I am happy.

And, like, I just. You know, it's my girls and I, too. Like, it's just. It's our crew, you know, the three of us. It's like my whole world.

Roxy Manning:

That's amazing. And you mentioned your children were younger when you were going through a divorce, and now they're a little bit older.

So as they get older, do you feel more comfortable talking with it about, you know, talking about it with them, or were you kind of open and honest right from the gut?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yeah, we were. They were so young that they just. You know what I mean? They were so young. So I don't think my younger one doesn't remember. Doesn't barely remembers.

I mean, she doesn't remember anything. She doesn't remember us ever being together, you know, and my older one's like, I remember a little bit. So they were just tiny.

Tiny, which was great because they don't have any of that. I miss this. Or I. It's just all they know, all they know, is life with me.

And so it doesn't come up a lot, but if they have questions, I'm always open with them and always talking to them, but they just know this life, and so it doesn't seem too different for them. And even though there are not a lot of single mothers in my area, and I don't only know, like, a handful in my life, actually, it.

You know, they're just used to what we have, and they love what we have, and so it just works for us. And it's what. And when you only know what you know, it just. You know, it. It's. You just go with it.

Roxy Manning:

Absolutely. Do you find, like. Because I noticed this too, like, as I. I'm getting older, it's. Sometimes it can be harder to make good girlfriends, you know, if.

Right. If you don't already have, like, that foundation or that history with them. And, you know, it's kind of an interesting scenario that happens. Right.

How has it been for you, particularly, because you're kind of newer to Dallas still.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

You know what? Yeah. And I'm sure you're the same, but I am all about quality over quantity, Right?

Roxy Manning:

Totally.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Like, my girls, my girlfriends are my fuel. They're my power source. They are my everything. And they have seen me through. I don't know what I would have done without my girls in my life.

Not my daughters, my girls, my women, my. My besties. Like, they have had my back through all of it. Right. And different people through different times.

And I have a very strong core of a very small core of women in my life. And three of those women were at my New York City time squared, and like, they. They were there. One of them wasn't able to make it. But that's my core.

Like, I posted, like, these women are my everything. And I don't know what I would do without them. I mean, we voice memo ridiculous amounts of time during the day.

We share the memes, we keep each other lifted, and we're all different. You know, one is never married with no kids, and one has one child and younger, and the other one married with two kids. Like, it's just.

We're all just unique and we all live all over the place and we just have this beautiful core. And meeting people now, you have to really add value. And I want to add value to your life. But.

But I've realized now something, you know, as I've got just in the last year, I've just become more acutely aware of those people that take more than they give. Right.

You Know, you sit down, you have a great dinner and you're having conversation, then you leave and you're like, they didn't ask a single question about me. Like, you know, and I'm, I love to talk and I love to get to know people and I want to know what makes them tick and I want to hear all the things.

But then by like the third or fourth time you're hanging out with them and they still have no curiosity or no desire to go deeper than surface. I don't know, I just don't have room in my life for those type of people anymore.

I'm just aware of like, I want a relationship that in every capacity, you know, whether it's my personal romantic relationship or my friendships that feel like we're just, we got each other, we're there for each other.

Roxy Manning:

Yes. We have to both be invested. You know, it's got to be that mutual interest. Right. Because otherwise if it's one sided, I mean, where does that go?

Nowhere. Right?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Where does that go? No, I mean, I got to the point where I'm like, yeah, I had some girlfriends in my life and I'm like, they didn't even ask.

Like the biggest things would happen and it was just like nothing, you know, And I'm like, I'm not looking for attention, but I am looking for support.

And if you're not even, you know, asking me, like, I moved to a new state in a new place and you don't even ask me how my kids are adjusting to the news, like hell. Like, it's like, it's just wild to me. Sometimes I'm like, why am I in this French? I don't think I need this in my life anymore.

This isn't normal, you know, not, this is not how friends act. So, yeah, I've been, I've been better at saying no to things and recognizing.

Roxy Manning:

That the power of no, I mean, it's a complete sentence, you know? Yeah. No explanation needed.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yeah, yeah.

I'm a people pleaser by nature, you know, I, I want to, you know, leave a mark and I want people to feel good and I want to just, you know, but so it's, but it's sometimes hard then to distinguish where that line is, you know, between people pleasing and, you know. Oh, my. Being taken advantage of, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Roxy Manning:

It's interesting too because speaking of the girlfriends, you know, some, our girlfriends can be sometimes the best helpers when it comes to dating and being out there. Right. Because they will give you your, their honest opinion.

Do you use your girlfriends for this purpose, like when you're out there, like, dating 1,000%.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I mean, yes, yes. To the point where I'm like, andrea, think for yourself, you know, because, yes, I mean, I am very strong willed and I have a very strong opinion.

I know my own. But yes, I always. There's a couple of girlfriends that I'm like, okay, let me tell you about this. And am I crazy? Like, am I crazy? And yes.

And also, I don't. You know, my girlfriends are honest and blunt and they're not. They're not like, just tooting my horn, right? They are really, like, they'll.

They shoot straight. Like, they will tell it like it is, whether I want to hear it or not. So I appreciate that.

And those are the type of friendships I want in my life, you know? But yes, they are my compass.

Roxy Manning:

They are the best. They'll say it how it is. Like, like you're saying, call it out. Right, Right.

And I find that also too, with, you know, women in midlife, especially if. If, you know, relationships are ending and they're moving on to new chapters. Dating can sometimes be a challenge in and of itself.

Like meeting men and do you do the apps? Do you go out to bars? Do you go to restaurants or meet through friends? Like, how has that been for you? Is it just like, crazy or is it pretty?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Okay, you know what? I have been so head down in work stuff and so focused on the book and all the. And everything that goes into it.

I mean, it is a full time job on top of my full time job on top of being a single mother. So it's been a lot. It's been a lot.

Like last week for the first time, I was like, oh, my God, I can like just have like two hours where I don't have anywhere to be or anything to do and no, no, nothing. And I don't have to put makeup on today, you know, like those moments. So, yes, I feel like I'm just coming up for air a little bit in that respect.

But yes, it's, It's. I have very high standards and I know myself very well at this point in my life and I just don't expect, like, I'm just not willing to accept less.

And I'm very happy with who I am in my life and my girlfriend. So I do have, like, my. One of my core group friends is also single, and so, like, her and I do a lot together.

You know, like, we're able to do a lot together and we travel and. And I Travel a lot with other women. I host retreats. Like, I'm always busy, and that helps me to not ever. Not ever to not often feel lonely. Right.

Because I'm so busy and it keeps me going.

That doesn't mean I don't have moments where I'm like, well, sure would be nice if I didn't have to pay every bill, take the trash out, manage the landscaping, like, wear every single hat there is. And I am the. I'm. The girls are with me almost 100 of the time. So it's a lot.

It's a lot to do life like that as a single mother, managing two teenage girls, running a business, trying to hit my personal passion and goals and then also balance it all. And sometimes I'm like, yeah, sometimes it would be really nice to have a partner to just do all the things with and have that.

But then I also see my girlfriends that are married and their husband's driving them crazy.

Roxy Manning:

And.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yes. So I'm like, you know, and they have to deal with all that. And me, I just do it my way because it's only my way.

So there is, you know, there's a lot of benefits and perks to that as well.

Roxy Manning:

Oh, there so is. I mean, you can. You have full reign over the tv, over, like, what you eat ever.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I want, wherever I want at any time. I can do my mask. I can do, like, it's. It's a girl house. And it's not a bad thing.

Roxy Manning:

Yes, exactly.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

That's the hard part, though, because once I'm. I've been like this for a while, and so when you get used to this and you don't need a man, like, in terms of. I've had my children.

I don't need financial support. Like, I. I'm good. Right. So I don't. I'm not checking any boxes is what I mean. Right. I don't need to check a box. I need to, like, fill my heart.

Like, it has to be somebody that actually adds real tremendous value to me in my soul. So it makes it harder.

I guess sometimes when you're at that age and you aren't ticking a box, you're looking for a companion, a real partner that, you know, makes you feel and like a best friend, you know? Yeah.

Roxy Manning:

Well, and if you have the fullness there already with, you know, family, friends, work, like, that completes so much of it anyway, that it's like.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Right.

Roxy Manning:

It's like you're not out there looking. Right.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I forget who said this, but my friend and I were Laughing about this because she's single as well and has been dating, but is also, like, would rather be alone at this point because these men are awful. They're awful. And so we laugh about this all the time. But somebody post.

She sent me a post recently, and it was like, somebody that's like, I just don't want to hear anyone breathing next to me. And we were laughing so hard. We're like, yes, yes. At this point in my life.

Roxy Manning:

Yes. Or chewing loudly. But chewing loudly.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Correct.

Roxy Manning:

I'm like.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Pros and cons. There are always. There are always pros and cons. So, you know. Yeah, you just gotta find that.

You gotta find the positives in your situation at all times and lean into that. And then you also have to be honest where the gaps are and figure out what you can do to fill those gaps when you need to.

Roxy Manning:

For sure. So let's talk a little bit about the book, which I read so good.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

You know, I'm so glad you liked it.

Roxy Manning:

Oh, I did. I did. And I was so, like, I was reading it and I was.

It was making me question my own way of thought because, you know, growing up in the media, like, hearing all these things, it's like sometimes, especially now, you know, I feel like I have to do something major to make a difference in my life.

You know, it's got to be like, a big move or it's got to be, you know, working out till I'm like, you know, pouring sweat and just on the floor, you know, like in exhaustion, you know, or not getting enough sleep because I need to work more. You know, it's like all these things.

But I thought your philosophy with the book was so interesting because actually, you're turning that on its head. You're saying small moves actually make the difference. So for the audience, what do you mean by that?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yes. Oh, everything you just said is so true. We have confused busyness for purpose or productivity, Right? It's like, we are busy.

We were like a badge of honor, you know, like, I'm crazy. Oh, my God, I have no time. And it's. We do. We say with pride. And yet inside we are, like, spinning, right?

Because we aren't getting enough sleep or we are just hanging on by a thread. So the book. This is the entire philosophy of the book. The concept is small move, stick, right? And you don't need to overhaul your entire life.

You just need to focus on doing the little things that are going to be your foundational stabilizers to help you live that bigger, fuller life. And it comes with time and it comes with consistency and a little bit of patience on the side.

So, you know, in this day and age, we are like immediate response. We want everything to happen. We want to make these big, massive changes because we feel change, right? We want to feel that immediacy of change.

Like, oh, I did this big thing and now I feel this way. I feel better. And oftentimes maybe that you do, but it's not lasting, it's not sustainable.

And then you're going right back to old habits and then you feel like even more of a failure and you're losing, like it's a losing game. So you really need to focus on what you can do to provide a strong foundation for you to make changes in your life that are going to be lasting.

And those type of transformations happen with, you know, over time. The small things compound. We know how it goes and it adds up, adds up, and it adds up.

And before you know, you're like, oh, wow, I remember, you know, three months ago I couldn't do this. Or I remember three months ago when every morning I felt this way.

Or I remember three months ago when I couldn't actually have the patience to put my phone aside to sit and down and have my meal. I was so distracted and anxious and all these things. And these seven things are like, I say they're my stabilizers.

If I, I don't have to think about doing them. They are every day.

This is not another seven things you have to add to your to do list that you're like, oh my God, I can't fit one more thing rather, yet seven. These are as, as simple and innate as brushing your teeth, right? These are things that you will do on a regular basis. You won't even realize it.

Like I just was when you were asking that question, I just took a big, huge, intentional breath, right? And I like counted my exhale. I'm like, oh, I'm just, I'm breathing while you're asking this question.

I'm thinking about it, but it's just, just, it's just happening. I didn't have to tell myself, take a deep breath. I just now do my breath work as soon as I need it.

And these are the type of things that you'll start to do. And before you know it, things look different, things feel different.

You have more control, you have more self awareness, you have more purpose and drive and energy. Like, you have more energy because these things all add up to give you that, that energy.

Roxy Manning:

Absolutely. And I was actually really surprised in A great way to know that they're not that time consuming. E. It's not like we don't have time.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Nobody does have. Nobody has time. Come on. It has to be easy and simple. Nobody has time. It's got to be as simple as brushing your teeth every day.

Like nobody has more time.

Roxy Manning:

Nobody.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

And you're not going to do it if it takes a lot of time or big effort or like you got to spend money to download an app or whatever it is you. It just has to be easy. And I think we see all these challenges, like you know, the 75 hard, which is great.

I love anything that gets people off the couch, up and moving and changes the lifestyle or gives you, you know, aha moment and hopefully that little bit of that moment will trickle into other elements of your life.

But we always feel like we need to do those things and not a lot of people have two 45 minute workouts, you know, opportunities during the day, or can read for an hour or do it.

Like all these things that we know we should be doing, these are instead just small little bite sized things sprinkled throughout your day that at the end of the day they add up. They add up.

Roxy Manning:

And I think you would probably agree with us that consistency is much more powerful than intensity for these types of exercises. Say it again.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

I mean, I wanna, Yes. I want a billboard that just says consistency, period. Yes. Consistency is where everything happens in life. Like it's where everything happens.

It's where your change lies. It's where your future lies. It's where your goals are. Are. Everything is on the other side of consistency through consistency.

Because you could, you know, I see this all the time with my workouts and challenges that we do.

People jump in, they'll do a 90 day challenge with us, but then they fall off as soon as that challenge is over or the accountability partner is gone or whatever it is. And, and they go right back to the old habits, you know, and so this is about simple things.

Like one of the chapters is about movement, something I'm very passionate about, obviously. And it's about taking away those excuses. It's about taking the fear and bringing it from here down to here and saying no.

You can actually get results if you just work out 10 minutes a day. Trust me, just 10 minutes. But you're gonna do it every day with me and it's non negotiable and you're gonna show it for yourself.

And when you sit there during the day and you're like, I do not feel like working Out. There's no desire in my body to do this. You're like, but it's only 10 minutes. And you know how fast 10 minutes goes, right?

It's like over before you even know it. And then your brain starts to go, okay, yeah, you should. Yeah, Andrew, I think you can, you can probably do 10 minutes.

You'll be all right, and you're gonna feel good after. So just, just do it. But if that's an hour and requires you to put on leggings and a top and then go to the gym and do.

It's a much harder dialogue, a much harder conversation, a much harder convincing of that inner fear, you know, an excuse kind of brain. And so we, what we do is we just remove a lot of that and we're just like, just move.

And if you move every day and 10 minutes feels great and you're done, great. If you, you can do more, press, play again, do another one of the workouts or go for a walk, it creates momentum.

Roxy Manning:

Okay, so that's good to know. Just getting off the couch for 10 minutes a day.

Now, let me ask you this, because as midlife women, we're often fed, you know, you have to live he heavy weights. You have to do zone two cardio, you have to, like, it's like you have to do all these things. How does that reconcile with the 10 minute workout?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yeah, that's a great question.

So, yes, as we age, we want to be cognizant and aware of what we really need to do to live our optimal life and to focus on longevity, not just how snatched we look. Right? Like we want to be snatched. We want to look good. We want the perky touch, we want all the tone, body, limbs, and all the things. Right?

But we also want to feel really good. And we also want to be able to do all these functional activities in our life into, you know, an older age.

And so, first of all, yes, we want you to lift heavy. We want you to focus on strength and resistance. All of those things are applicable, necessary, and important.

But a lot of the times it becomes an all or nothing. And the. And many people go for the nothing because they try the all and it doesn't stick and they go to nothing.

I would rather have a little bit of something that you do every single day that adds up as opposed to you trying all, all, all for a few months and doing nothing for the rest of the year. So these workouts. So if you buy the book, you get the workouts for free. You just send me a receipt. They're all online, they're 10 minutes long.

You can add weights to it, you can add three pound weights, you could add five pound weights, you could add 10 pound weights. All of the movement is strength and resistance based. So that in itself is going to be incredible.

It helps with posture and alignment and bone density and muscle mass and all the things that we want to think about as we age. So just those workouts alone are, are great and they are a great, not only starting point, but they're a great maintenance. Right.

And I have many people have been working out with me for years and I one client who has lost over £100 with me and she is like, this is a godsend. Like, I. She normally does like a good 45 or 50 minute workout. She doubles up on my workout.

She's like, but she's going through a hard time in her life right now and things are happening with her family and she's like, I would have gone off. I think I would have gone all the way off. It went right back to old this person, right? And went right back to those health.

But now I had the 10 minutes and I can lean into that and that right now is what I need. So this is a great place to start.

It's a great place to have as a foundation and a base and then you can add on to it once you feel like you've gotten into that rhythm and you feel like, I've got this. So if you're someone that's like sitting at home listening to this and you go, I already work out three times a week.

I do strength training three times a week. I do cardio twice a week, I do my walk. I don't need this. I'll say, great, keep doing what you're doing.

But on those days that you can't, press play because you don't have the time, instead of doing nothing that day, just press play on these workouts.

Roxy Manning:

Ah, great. So those can actually work with your existing workouts that you're already doing.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

That's what most of my clients do. They've added them on.

Roxy Manning:

Oh, that's great. So there's really no excuse. I mean, you really like these things can be plugged into your daily routine.

You can put them in anywhere throughout your day. Absolutely, anytime, any number.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Right.

Roxy Manning:

Because I think that's another thing too. People are like, oh, I have to work out. It either has to be before work or it has to be after dinner.

You know, after the kids are like getting ready for bed. Like, but you can actually do these Things, even squeeze them in during the work day.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

You absolutely can. And I do. I actually do. Between calls. Yeah, I do. And you're gonna, you're gonna feel it, though. Don't think like this 10 minutes is nothing.

I mean, you're gonna be like, holy, how, what the heck was that like? Like, how is that only 10 minutes? You're going to feel your body get into the quiver and shake.

You're going to feel a little sore the next day, and you're going to be shocked that in 10 minutes. But it's all about mind, body, movement.

I'm encouraging you to really think about how you're activating your muscles, how you're moving your body, being present in the moment as opposed to just like going through the motions and teaching you that type of mentality will be applicable for all other movement that you do throughout your life, whether you're a swimmer, a runner, whatever you do, you're going to take these cues and you're going to apply it to that or stay with me and you're gonna see things are gonna change in the way that you get far more bang for your buck.

Roxy Manning:

Okay. For a woman that's sitting out there, I'm playing devil's advocate. She's like, I literally have 60 seconds, like, one minute to do something.

What would you tell her out of all the seven steps? Or what would be like, maybe the most important thing for her to do?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yes. Okay, two things. These are my two things that I just will not ever go without. Number one is breath work. Like my breath work. Breath work, girl.

I'm telling you, we have this incredible tool. If I said to you, and I've been using this analogy lately because I feel like it resonates if I said to you, here's a pill.

This pill is going to take you from a place of fight or flight. That anxious, nervous, overwhelm feeling. And it's going to. Within 60 seconds, you're going to feel calmer. You're going to feel more in control.

You're going to feel like you've shifted and you're just going to. You're just going to be like a whole new person. And there's no side effects. It's all natural. You take the pill.

But if I said to you this will require you to have a focused inhale and exhale for two, you know, 60 seconds.

You'd be like crystal chakras, whatever, breath smith, like, sure it will, you know, because we are just like, not used to just using our own internal, beautiful bodies to Be able to create this mental health and mood shift. So breath work has been the most important tool. I do it all day long, throughout the day. I cannot say nothing better, good things about it.

It's in your back pocket. Takes a few moments to understand what breath work works for you. I have like two that I do on a consistent basis. I give you many options in the book.

You can choose all or just one or two. And then the second thing is what we just discussed, which is movement. And I always will say this, this, you move your body, you move your life.

And the opposite is true as well. If you don't move your body, things are not going to move in your life.

So I'm just saying that that is, that is where it's at, taking those few moments. And if you don't even have 10 minutes, if you're listening and you do, you're like, Andrea, I actually, I actually don't even have those 10 minutes.

I am at my limit. I do something called movement snacks. Throughout the day. I sprinkle in these little one minute moments.

So when I'm cooking my matcha in the morning, I've got 2 minutes and 35 seconds where my almond milk is heating up and I do push ups on the countertop when I brush my teeth. I do my lunges or my heel rises, my releves every single night. Like they add up. So I get these little, little micro moments throughout the day.

If I'm sitting at my desk and I'm in between calls, I'm doing a little lift and a little lower, I'll go up and then I'll slowly go back to my chair, just for a minute. And I'm already activating my glutes and getting my heart rate up and just giving myself a moment. Moment. And it's not just the physical.

There is a physical change that will happen, obviously, but it's, it's the endorphins that are released. It's the, and it's also just the sense of accomplishment. You just did something good for yourself.

And when you do good things for yourself sprinkled throughout the day, you make better decisions to continue to do the right thing for yourself the rest of the day.

Roxy Manning:

Absolutely. Little bursts of energy that has got to be good for your mental and emotional health.

I mean, it gets you going, you know, it's, it fires things up, you know, that's it. That's it. How are you living iconically right now?

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Oh, I mean, I'm a best selling author now, so come on. Yes, I am. And so. Yeah. But it's so funny, my friend, that day that it came out, she's like, oh, my God. You celebrated.

I'm like, I'm at the grocery store and I just cleaned out my refrigerator. Like, this is real life. Yeah.

Roxy Manning:

No, but, yeah, I mean, that is so exciting. Congratulations on that huge milestone. That's amazing. I know the second book is probably going to be coming out very soon.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Well, we're going to be doing some big research and stuff for it, so it's. It's going to be a little bit longer, but it's going to be worth it.

Roxy Manning:

Okay. Okay. And tell everybody where they can find the book and where they can find you.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yes. Small moves, big life dot com. Everything is there. All of the moves, move library, all of your information. So smallmoves, big life.com and follow you.

Roxy Manning:

On social, too, because you have a great page. You've got a lot of fun.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Yes. Andrea Lee Rogers. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you for mentioning that.

Roxy Manning:

Well, I'm so glad you could join us today. It felt like chatting with a girlfriend. I love these kinds of.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

It really did. It really did. When you come back to Dallas, we're gonna hang out.

Roxy Manning:

Let's get some good, good food and hang out and chat.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

And I love it. I love it.

Roxy Manning:

I know we have a lot more to talk about, so I agree.

Andrea Leigh Rogers:

Thank you.

Roxy Manning:

If today reminded you that your power isn't in the big dramatic moments, it's in the tiny choices you make when nobody sees, then take one small move today. Drink the water, breathe for 60 seconds, write the one sentence, move for five minutes. Not because you need fixing, but because you deserve to shift.

Show up for the woman you're becoming. Follow and share this episode with a friend who's ready to stop waiting for motivation and start building momentum.

And remember, whether you're juggling motherhood, ambition, reinvention, or all three, you don't need a new life to become a new woman. You just need one small move. You're not behind. You're evolving, and that's iconic.

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The Iconic Midlife with Roxy Manning
A midlife podcast for women 40+ on reinvention, confidence, beauty, menopause, and success—with host Roxy Manning
What if midlife isn’t a crisis… but your most powerful chapter yet?

The Iconic Midlife is the unapologetic podcast for women 40 and over who are ready to own their next act with boldness, brains, and zero apologies. Hosted by longtime entertainment journalist and red carpet insider Roxy Manning, this weekly show challenges outdated narratives around aging—and delivers real, unfiltered conversations about reinvention, ambition, beauty, perimenopause, menopause, sex, money, wellness, friendship, and everything women were told to stop caring about after 40.

Each Tuesday, Roxy sits down with celebrity guests, health experts, industry disruptors, thought leaders, and fearless midlife voices to talk about what it really means to age with power, pleasure, and purpose.

Whether you’re navigating hormonal shifts or building your empire, The Iconic Midlife will make you feel bold, seen, and completely unbothered by anyone’s expectations but your own.

Midlife isn’t invisible. It’s iconic.
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